bbythepier Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Jake did not play in a spring game between Mar 13 thru March 24, with a 'mystery illness'. He came back for games on 3/24 & 3/26, hit 7th and went 3 for 6 with 2 SBs and a legged out double. The legs seem to be fine. The overall health seems to be fine. The question among Twittersphere is did his absence require him to come out hot to move up in Lovullo's lineup or did he even lose his spot in the lineup to begin with. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabaak Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Roster Resource shows him batting 3rd. ORIGINAL SIGNING INFO Prospect Rank Power Rank 2023 PROJECTIONS more_vert ORDER POS # PLAYER BATS AGE HOW ACQUIRED Options MLB Service Time Year Team Rd Pick Ovr Rank ('23) Org Rank ('23) Org Rank ('22) Ovr PA HR SB AVG OBP SLG 1 LF 7 Corbin Carroll L 22.6 Drafted 1st Rd (16) '19 3 0.038 2019 ARI 1 16 2 1 391 602 17 20 .245 .330 .421 2 2B 4 Ketel Marte S 29.5 Trade (SEA) Nov'16 n/a 6.162 AUG 2010 SEA 87 595 17 6 .275 .345 .452 3 RF 31 Jake McCarthy L 25.7 Drafted 1st Rd (39) '18 2 0.170 2018 ARI 1 39 183 574 13 28 .256 .320 .406 4 1B 53 Christian Walker R 32.0 Waivers (CIN) Mar'17 0 4.124 2012 BAL 4 132 22 665 28 3 .254 .334 .454 5 3B 10 Josh Rojas L 28.7 Trade (HOU) Jul'19 2 2.152 2017 HOU 26 781 104 504 10 17 .249 .332 .384 6 DH 12 Lourdes Gurriel Jr. R 29.6 Trade (TOR) Dec'22 n/a 4.094 NOV 2016 TOR 139 504 13 4 .283 .332 .438 7 CF 5 Alek Thomas L 22.9 Drafted 2nd Rd (63) '18 3 0.151 2018 ARI 2 63 215 441 10 7 .258 .315 .405 8 SS 13 Nick Ahmed R 33.0 Trade (ATL) Jan'13 n/a 8.054 2011 ATL 2 85 497 420 8 5 .237 .294 .373 9 C 14 Gabriel Moreno R 23.1 Trade (TOR) Dec'22 1 0.061 AUG 2016 TOR 472 382 7 4 .273 .331 .391 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakkneeswilly Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 McCarthy is having a terrible spring. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakkneeswilly Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 8 hours ago, weakkneeswilly said: McCarthy is having a terrible spring. Why is that funny? I don’t think it’s funny. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 Mccarthy hit 7th first 2 games back from illness, 8th tonight. Lovullo gonna make him earn his spot back, i guess. It's not like Gurriel is some huge obstacle to overcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Topps Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 12 minutes ago, weakkneeswilly said: Why is that funny? I don’t think it’s funny. Probably because it's like 40 plate appearances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stay_woke Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 I had him last season and was planning to draft him and then saw how terrible his statcast was and stayed far away. Seems like he got pretty lucky last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
collucho Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 5 minutes ago, stay_woke said: I had him last season and was planning to draft him and then saw how terrible his statcast was and stayed far away. Seems like he got pretty lucky last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Topps Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Kind of interesting looking at McCarthy's projections compared to his teammate, Corbin Carroll. Let's look at The Bat projections... JM: .262, 11 HRs, 32 SBs, 75 Rs, 54 RBIs CC: .257, 14 HRs, 19 SBs, 77 Rs, 61 RBIs Ok, so maybe The Bat is the low man on Carroll. Steamer... JM: .256, 13, 29, 66 & 65 CC: .237, 19, 20, 84 & 62 More favorable for Carroll, but still, you're probably trading some 10 steals for 10 homers? The Rs & RBIs will probably come down to where they bat in the lineup. Average may be close to a wash. But, Carroll is going over 50 picks higher. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willsea33 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 minutes ago, 89Topps said: Kind of interesting looking at McCarthy's projections compared to his teammate, Corbin Carroll. Let's look at The Bat projections... JM: .262, 11 HRs, 32 SBs, 75 Rs, 54 RBIs CC: .257, 14 HRs, 19 SBs, 77 Rs, 61 RBIs Ok, so maybe The Bat is the low man on Carroll. Steamer... JM: .256, 13, 29, 66 & 65 CC: .237, 19, 20, 84 & 62 More favorable for Carroll, but still, you're probably trading some 10 steals for 10 homers? The Rs & RBIs will probably come down to where they bat in the lineup. Average may be close to a wash. But, Carroll is going over 50 picks higher. Projections are never 100% correct obviously and the range of outcomes for both players is pretty vast. I think Carroll will produce its just a matter of how much. Mccarthy is someone who could be a complete bust and bat .220 with only 15 steals and very little homers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCD Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 2 hours ago, Willsea33 said: Projections are never 100% correct obviously and the range of outcomes for both players is pretty vast. I think Carroll will produce its just a matter of how much. Mccarthy is someone who could be a complete bust and bat .220 with only 15 steals and very little homers. Most people fail. Every player, who did not prove themselves at the highest level, could be a bust, so Carroll could be bust too. Even players who proved themselves could go down the Cody Bellinger / Jason Heyward route. Projections are merely show the most expected performance. To use them to prove anything is pointless. This is just lottery, but with better odds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arthurpete Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 4 hours ago, JCD said: Most people fail. Every player, who did not prove themselves at the highest level, could be a bust, so Carroll could be bust too. Even players who proved themselves could go down the Cody Bellinger / Jason Heyward route. Projections are merely show the most expected performance. To use them to prove anything is pointless. This is just lottery, but with better odds. We draft with a heavy emphasis on projections. It isnt a pointless exercise to point out that two similar projections have very different ADPs 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slatykamora Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Projection ranges are far more informative then a single exact projection. The single number is just the simplified version via giving you the 50th% percentile outcome. Yet erases differences in on how wide the range is. McCarthy doesnt have enough MLB data to give a really good 50% percentile outcome or tight range. Not gonna help you if the reason you are picking him is more for upside then caring about downside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slatykamora Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Far as Carroll vs McCarthy. Think Carroll has more power projection then McCarthy. So I'd prefer him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbythepier Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 Since returning from an 11 day illness, Mccarthy is 4 for 9, 2 SB, 1K. Lets see if he can keep it going when they count. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
summersoff7 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 He's going to be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CesarGeronimo Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 I own dude in an NL only at a really good price. That being said, I’m a little worried about regression. The speed will play, and he’s a really good defender, but if he is an 8-10 homer, .250 guy, he likely becomes a 4th OF type. Lots of talent scrapping for AB’s there. I tend to be risk adverse, but his speed is just so tempting. Best case IMO .270 12-15 65-75 RBI 60-80 R 35-40 SB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StartYourStuds Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Draft stock way to inflated for me... I was a fan when he was labeled a sleeper but cant pay that draft capital for such an unproven guy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakkneeswilly Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 3 hours ago, CesarGeronimo said: I own dude in an NL only at a really good price. That being said, I’m a little worried about regression. The speed will play, and he’s a really good defender, but if he is an 8-10 homer, .250 guy, he likely becomes a 4th OF type. Lots of talent scrapping for AB’s there. I tend to be risk adverse, but his speed is just so tempting. Best case IMO .270 12-15 65-75 RBI 60-80 R 35-40 SB I would be extremely happy with these numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reichl555 Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 Batting ninth? Did I read that right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
89Topps Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 4 minutes ago, reichl555 said: Batting ninth? Did I read that right? I think that’s probably where he’ll be against tough lefties. Will probably move up against righties. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingJoffrey Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 It’s a conspiracy I tell you - I’m a victim of McCarthyism ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rando Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 On 3/27/2023 at 6:27 PM, weakkneeswilly said: Why is that funny? I don’t think it’s funny. I hope he asks one more time. Get the army ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakkneeswilly Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 3 hours ago, rando said: I hope he asks one more time. Get the army ready. Why is that funny? I don’t think it’s funny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weakkneeswilly Posted March 31 Share Posted March 31 Batting 7th with Dustin May on the mound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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