FFCollusion Posted August 13, 2022 Share Posted August 13, 2022 I'm not sure I'm ready to bet against Keenan Allen, but I'm definitely no longer betting on him. Last year was the final year I was on the Allen train. 1 year early vs 1 year late mentality. Williams would clearly be the main beneficiary of a career decline, and Herbert is the real deal. I like his ADP and his value. He's basically the 2022 version of Tyler Lockett, but with the added benefit of a natural transition to the Alpha if the team. Allen is an elite route runner, arguably too 5 in the league, those players don't tend to have the same declines as guys who dominate with physical traits. Either way, in the 5th round is usually when I'm thinking "flex" player, and I want PURE upside. I think there are 3 arguably 4 WRs in the 5th round that fit that bill, and Williams is clearly included. I don't know if he's at the top of that tier for me, so I'm not sure I land him anywhere, but he's definitely in the discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud0101 Posted August 13, 2022 Author Share Posted August 13, 2022 2 hours ago, FFCollusion said: I'm not sure I'm ready to bet against Keenan Allen, but I'm definitely no longer betting on him. Last year was the final year I was on the Allen train. 1 year early vs 1 year late mentality. Williams would clearly be the main beneficiary of a career decline, and Herbert is the real deal. I like his ADP and his value. He's basically the 2022 version of Tyler Lockett, but with the added benefit of a natural transition to the Alpha if the team. Allen is an elite route runner, arguably too 5 in the league, those players don't tend to have the same declines as guys who dominate with physical traits. Either way, in the 5th round is usually when I'm thinking "flex" player, and I want PURE upside. I think there are 3 arguably 4 WRs in the 5th round that fit that bill, and Williams is clearly included. I don't know if he's at the top of that tier for me, so I'm not sure I land him anywhere, but he's definitely in the discussion. if u believe. u believe. if he hits he a rd 2 guy. with that said i’m good with him in rd3 —guess u could say i believe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraftyRighty Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I love Williams but I think Palmer eats into the production. I know they have different roles but I still think Williams is what he is and is a 70-80 catch buy with 1000 yards, not bad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7HorseGod Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 14 minutes ago, CraftyRighty said: I love Williams but I think Palmer eats into the production. I know they have different roles but I still think Williams is what he is and is a 70-80 catch buy with 1000 yards, not bad I think it's kind of hard to say what Williams is. Up until last year he was more of a bench WR who gave you an occasional unpredictable blw up game. The first half of last year before the knee injury he was the best WR in fantasy football through 5 games and then after the injury he fell off. I think if that guy from the first five games shows up Josh Palmer ain't taking nothing from him. More likely he takes away from Keenan Allen. If the prior years Mike Williams shows up then they just have kind of a bevvy of tertiary targets behind Ekeler and Allen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illusion_J Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 38 minutes ago, CraftyRighty said: I love Williams but I think Palmer eats into the production. I know they have different roles but I still think Williams is what he is and is a 70-80 catch buy with 1000 yards, not bad Williams has been many different things over his career, the one constant is inconsistency for one reason for another. But this passing offense has so much room in it if Herbert can produce like last year (5,000 yards) or better. I mean Allen and the backs could combine for 2,000 yards (like last year), Palmer could even have 1,000 yards (not likely), and there's still 2,000 yards to go around for Big Mike, the TEs and any of the other targets. No reason to think things will change much here. Williams will have big weeks and brutal weeks. I'm not even a big fan of his talent, but can't see him not eclipsing 1,000 yards assuming he stays healthy in an offense that is throwing for 5,000 yards or more. The upside is he gets back to that guy pre-injury last year and dominates. The non-injury downside is, he's just another option in this offense, but via volume will get 20-23% of the receiving yardage as he has each year for the past 3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtb88 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 how we feeling about him today? we firing him up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingusDew Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, wtb88 said: how we feeling about him today? we firing him up? … yeah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryansm11 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, wtb88 said: how we feeling about him today? we firing him up? Just now, MingusDew said: … yeah Went 1/11 first matchup and 9/119/1 his2nd matchup. In the first matchup Herbert missed him on a would be 70 yard touchdown wide open down the sideline. I think Mike will get his 7/100/1 today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chucky Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Is this guy alive? On strike? Injured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikesrube Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Shouldnt have skipped out on that breakfast invite from Herbie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayTheWaivers Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Mike Williams gonna mike Williams Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
umphrey Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Dropping my wr1 😎 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islanderman Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 The disturbing part is no targets. What is going on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingusDew Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Kill me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluecrew56 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 No way the Chargers paid 60 million guaranteed for one target. Maybe Mike has to become more vocal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affliction Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Why did they even pay this man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnUt Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Doghouse...flirting with Herbert's gf Taylor at their last party. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadFaceHappy Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, bigbluecrew56 said: No way the Chargers paid 60 million guaranteed for one target. Maybe Mike has to become more vocal. I paid $27, and apparently that was way too much. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingusDew Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 ETN/BMW was my 3/4 turn in like 3 leagues. Not good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Bluth Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Allen in one league. BMW in the other. I’m screwed no matter which way I turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilaFanBoy Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Who's covering him? Nate Hobbs? You're overthinking it if you think the Herbert won't target Williams in future weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgeCostanza Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 dropped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbluecrew56 Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Allen will probably be out a week or two with that hammy pull so hopefully big Mike gets more involved in the scripted game plan to start the game next week at very least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breesus Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 I’d expect them to make it a point to get him the ball next week. KC coming to town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilaFanBoy Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Hobbs just made a spectacular play to rob Mike Williams of a catch. He's one of the top corners in the game and erased Williams for the most part. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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