FinsUp24 Posted July 23, 2022 Share Posted July 23, 2022 12 hours ago, harck said: Not with Winston man, particularly with Sean Peyton gone. Watching their games last year it's clear Winston absolutely does not want to dump off like Brees. Kamara had one blow up game with Winston against Seattle where it was clearly the gameplan to feed him and Seattle left him uncovered in the first half. I think his days of being fed like in the Brees era are very much over, Jameis is going to look to air it out and Sean Peyton isn't there to keep him in check. Not to mention they probably shouldn't keep him in check anyway with a WR trio of MT, Landry, and Olave. I would be on board with this take if we didn't have Jameis on record saying that he went back and watched that Seattle game to appreciate those easy dump off yards to AK. He specifically said that is one of his main focus points this off-season. Jameis wants more than anything to revitalize his career, and he saw first hand the power of the check down from Brees. The Kamara receptions will be there. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud0101 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 thoughts on an 8/1 not guilty plea? if so, likely pushes any discipline to 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickHenrysCleats Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Whitecloud0101 said: thoughts on an 8/1 not guilty plea? if so, likely pushes any discipline to 2023. I’ve got bad luck and I took mark ingram for a potential 6 game starting gig to open the season so that pretty much assures deferred punishment for Alvin until 2023. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor3 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, Whitecloud0101 said: thoughts on an 8/1 not guilty plea? if so, likely pushes any discipline to 2023. 1,000,000,000% certain not guilty plea, delaying that phase of this fustercluck quite a bit ... one caveat, tho - if that vid is leaked, ol' AK is gonna be on the Shield's carpet toot sweet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitecloud0101 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, Pastor3 said: 1,000,000,000% certain not guilty plea, delaying that phase of this fustercluck quite a bit ... one caveat, tho - if that vid is leaked, ol' AK is gonna be on the Shield's carpet toot sweet. been leaked for quite some time my guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungDro Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Whitecloud0101 said: been leaked for quite some time my guy Link? All I've heard is second hand accounts from people who supposedly saw it Edited July 25, 2022 by YoungDro 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor3 Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, Whitecloud0101 said: been leaked for quite some time my guy go back to my earlier post where i dropped the Drew Davenport tweet on this affair - the vid has been seen, briefly, but was not hugely consumed on teh social mediaz - it disappeared. now, if it is widely dropped, this is gonna get very urgent for the Shield - and this will change rapidly for AK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affliction Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 On 7/22/2022 at 5:41 PM, Whitecloud0101 said: just took him @ 3.5 with the thought of a 2-4 game hook. worth it? It’s hard to pass on him in the 3rd. If he doesn’t get suspended he is back to mid early 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7HorseGod Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Is this going to be like the Ray Rice deal, where everyone knew what happened, but then the video was released wide and then everyone pretended like because it was a video it meant something different than when they read what happened in print? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzkilloton Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 He just fell to me at pick 41 in my 100 PPR season long email draft. Alot of fear on him right now even if you dont want any he may find himself on your team. Ofc every league is diff but if you're thinking of taking him he may fall further then you expect. As far as the player himself I think he has one more year left in him. Just gotta dodge the suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNdicateZ Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 On 7/25/2022 at 5:51 PM, JE7HorseGod said: Is this going to be like the Ray Rice deal, where everyone knew what happened, but then the video was released wide and then everyone pretended like because it was a video it meant something different than when they read what happened in print? Seeing a woman get beat on video is much harder than an instigating man get his a** beat. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JE7HorseGod Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, SyNdicateZ said: Seeing a woman get beat on video is much harder than an instigating man get his a** beat. No argument here. I just know as a society we've become "visually mediumed" and am speculating about the relative impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNdicateZ Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 21 minutes ago, JE7HorseGod said: No argument here. I just know as a society we've become "visually mediumed" and am speculating about the relative impact. I agree 100% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
affliction Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kball09 Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 Let's assume he plays the entire year. Does he move to the Mixon/Swift tier in PPR or do you group him more with the Jones/Fournette/Williams group? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyNdicateZ Posted August 1, 2022 Share Posted August 1, 2022 35 minutes ago, kball09 said: Let's assume he plays the entire year. Does he move to the Mixon/Swift tier in PPR or do you group him more with the Jones/Fournette/Williams group? Hea a top 5 rb in ppr. If not top 3... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenmills Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Doesn't look like there will be a suspension handed down until sometime in December at the earliest(unless he pleads guilty on 10/1), and very easily could get pushed into the offseason. His ADP has risen a little bit since the continuation but I still think he's a value where he's at. I've seen people post that CMC and Henry are worthy of their high ADPs even if they get hurt and only play half the season because they're such elite difference makers. I don't think Kamara is that far off from them assuming Winston stays healthy. It would suck to have a suspension come down right before the fantasy playoffs but I think he's worth the risk, especially at a discount. I'm not even sure if the video leaks it would be a big enough deal to make the league move on it faster. It was a dude they attacked in the altercation(BIG difference) and it wasn't just Kamara involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGDDYKWL Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 On 8/1/2022 at 1:40 PM, kball09 said: Let's assume he plays the entire year. Does he move to the Mixon/Swift tier in PPR or do you group him more with the Jones/Fournette/Williams group? On 8/1/2022 at 2:16 PM, SyNdicateZ said: Hea a top 5 rb in ppr. If not top 3... I'd put him right in that Mixon/Swift category personally. He's not top 3 IMO. He seemed to wear down last year, his YPC was terrible, and he doesn't catch near as many balls with Jameis. And I realize you asked a specific hypothetical, but the looming potential suspension is a worry I'd rather not deal with when I could just grab a Mixon/Swift type player. He's worth it over the next tier you mention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor3 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 the "multiple sources" include AB's smoovie purveyor and Teflon Tomlin's diction coach, but, they are "sources" nonetheless ... 🦉 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scheibler Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) He’s way too far down in ADP right now imo. Still a mid 1st easily for me in PPR. He has better weapons around him to draw attention, better QB play and no longer injured. He’s the same player as ekeler to me Edited August 12, 2022 by scheibler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenmills Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 25 minutes ago, Pastor3 said: the "multiple sources" include AB's smoovie purveyor and Teflon Tomlin's diction coach, but, they are "sources" nonetheless ... 🦉 You don't even need a source to deduce the suspension is more likely to occur in 2023, if you just map out the timeline using reasonable expectations for how slow the legal process works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor3 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 6 minutes ago, owenmills said: You don't even need a source to deduce the suspension is more likely to occur in 2023, if you just map out the timeline using reasonable expectations for how slow the legal process works yeah, i already deducted as such 4 weeks ago - predicted it righ' chere in this thread (to pushback, of course). also drafted him in the 2nd rd of the Roto master chef leeg in early July i was always hep, baby. 🐪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFCollusion Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I'm willing to take this gamble. I'm not going to grandstand it or give any stats about it. Just the very simple fact, that assuming no suspension I have him ranked as RB6. My first money draft is this weekend, I draft from the 9 spot. I won't take him at 9, but if he's there in the 2nd I'm in board. The only 2 players that would make me hesitate, which I'll need to pin down, are Swift, and Diggs. I'll take Kamara over Lamb, Kelce, Adams, Tyreek, Chubb, and Jones without hesitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MingusDew Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, FFCollusion said: I'm willing to take this gamble. I'm not going to grandstand it or give any stats about it. Just the very simple fact, that assuming no suspension I have him ranked as RB6. My first money draft is this weekend, I draft from the 9 spot. I won't take him at 9, but if he's there in the 2nd I'm in board. The only 2 players that would make me hesitate, which I'll need to pin down, are Swift, and Diggs. I'll take Kamara over Lamb, Kelce, Adams, Tyreek, Chubb, and Jones without hesitation. I think this is where I'm at as well. I think I'd take him over Swift but not Diggs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastor3 Posted August 12, 2022 Share Posted August 12, 2022 4 minutes ago, FFCollusion said: I'm willing to take this gamble. I'm not going to grandstand it or give any stats about it. Just the very simple fact, that assuming no suspension I have him ranked as RB6. My first money draft is this weekend, I draft from the 9 spot. I won't take him at 9, but if he's there in the 2nd I'm in board. The only 2 players that would make me hesitate, which I'll need to pin down, are Swift, and Diggs. I'll take Kamara over Lamb, Kelce, Adams, Tyreek, Chubb, and Jones without hesitation. 12 or 14 teems? i'll assume you're drafting with savvy chaps ... if it is 14, i doubt he makes it back to rd 2. 12 teems may be a tad more pliable, but, again ... if this news picks up legs, i can't see him making it too far into round 2. where are you aiming at 1.09? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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