TheJuggernautBTCH Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Pooskay said: this is has RBBC written all over it. DMC is 30 and can't handle a big workload. with all that said, let's hope Zeke's suspension is delayed until next season. I guess we find out today? PLease spare me any bad news...lost Carson and AR 15 already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owenmills Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I picked up Morris and play the Zeke owner this weekend. Hoping for a festivus miracle today! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheJuggernautBTCH Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 1 minute ago, owenmills said: I picked up Morris and play the Zeke owner this weekend. Hoping for a festivus miracle today! go on the alfred morris thread and rejoice....leave us Zeke owners in our own anxiety Edited October 2, 2017 by TheJuggernautBTCH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayTheWaivers Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 All the legal drama, but no talk about his play. He performed so great yesterday. And he got to display his receiving skills. Looks like the top-3 fantasy back that we drafted. He could improve on the YPC perspective. I for sure am going to miss his production if he's suspended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninjacookies Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frayed Ends of Fantasy Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) This whole situation is freaking me out. I'm not only a Zeke owner, but also a Cook owner. So if the 6-game suspension is enforced this week, my fantasy team/season is done. It would be somewhat of a relief if I knew who's going to start in place of Zeke, if suspended, but I don't even know that. I plan to submit a waiver claim for DMC and Morris this week, and then just roll with whoever I get. I should be able to get one of them, not both. Ugh. Edited October 2, 2017 by The Frayed Ends of Fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveohnine Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 If you're not a thrill seeker, you might want to sell him if he somehow makes it through this hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn Yankee Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Looks like the Judges are beating up the NFL lawyers a bit on the irreparable harm argument. Here is a link with a series of tweets from Kate Hairopoulos who was inside the court room. Quote https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/10/01/next-step-ezekiel-elliotts-case-will-play-huge-role-continues-play-must-serve-suspension I'm feeling a little better.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wideopen21 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Damn Yankee said: Looks like the Judges are beating up the NFL lawyers a bit on the irreparable harm argument. Here is a link with a series of tweets from Kate Hairopoulos who was inside the court room. I'm feeling a little better.... I've been saying this for a while, but there is no way competent Judges can find that the NFL will be irreparably harmed by letting Zeke play this season when they can just as easily suspend him next year. The only harm that could be suffered in this situation is by Zeke if he is suspended for 6 games and ultimately wins. He can never get those games back. There is nothing to be nervous about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooL Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 FU Goodell. He basically is trying to save face here and is throwing everything he can to get his way, despite the NFL screwing up the case. Can't wait for this pompous dude to be taken out of office. Let's talk about the actual game. Whoop whoop! This is the guy I drafted in the first round. Loved that he scored one of his TDs on a pass reception. Let's hope he can continue to play! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damn Yankee Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) 5 minutes ago, wideopen21 said: I've been saying this for a while, but there is no way competent Judges can find that the NFL will be irreparably harmed by letting Zeke play this season when they can just as easily suspend him next year. The only harm that could be suffered in this situation is by Zeke if he is suspended for 6 games and ultimately wins. He can never get those games back. There is nothing to be nervous about. Yea...competency is key here. Simple yet solid questions from the judges to NFL lawyers like: 1. It matters what information was given to the Commissioner, doesn't it? (in reference to recommendation by investigator that there is NOT enough evidence to judge against EZ). 2. How do you satisfy irreparable harm? Judge who asked that question noted EZ can't get games back if he serves suspension now....before trial. 3. Is it normal for the NFL process not to include investigators' recommendations? ouch. Edited October 2, 2017 by Damn Yankee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gufomel Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) I have no legal knowledge basis for this. But gut feeling, I feel 1000x better now than I did an hour ago about his outlook. Hopefully escapes the suspension for this year. From what I understood from discussion prior to the hearing, a quick ruling likely is in Elliott's favor, while a ruling in 1-2 weeks is likely against Elliott. Sounds like they should give a decision by tomorrow. That sounds positive. Edited October 2, 2017 by gufomel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Varys Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/73tsoj/zeke_elliot_hearing_today/dntbkq6/ Judges Prado and Elrod seemed disturbed by the premature filing, per reddit user u/FoxNO who was apparently in the courtroom. Some random guy on the internet said it so it has to be true. All sarcasm aside, not sure what the guy stands to gain from lying. His account seems like he's actually from that area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tts42572 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 I hope the NFL gets what's coming to them in this case....This whole Zeke thing was just very, very sloppy from all I've read. I just find it terrible that the NFL feels like they can do a better job investigating this sort of stuff than law enforcement. Back to Zeke, he seems to be rounding in to form a bit. I'd like to see the Cowboys using him more as a receiver and really don't think they're taking enough advantage of his skills there. There's bigger games coming if he can stay on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frog34 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 On 28.9.2017 at 12:43 AM, frog34 said: Theoretically Monday, yes. But if they want to dig deeper and schedule additional hearings, it could be another week or two. Fwiw if the latter is the case, odds are Zeke serves his suspension immediately. Monday ruling would probably be in Zeke's favor. Just like I called it last week. Ruling tomorrow = Zeke plays all year Ruling next week or later = Suspended immediately = RIP 2017 Fantasy season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrastersCreep Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 14 minutes ago, frog34 said: Just like I called it last week. Ruling tomorrow = Zeke plays all year Ruling next week or later = Suspended immediately = RIP 2017 Fantasy season Have they announced when the ruling will be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cousinal111 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, CrastersCreep said: Have they announced when the ruling will be? Only thing I've seen is "not today" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Varys Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 (edited) Here's from a lawyer who was in the room: Quote Elrod is an NFL vote. Graves is a Zeke vote. Prado will be the swing. He did not seem to agree with Kessler on the jurisdictional arguments (he thinks Zeke filed prematurely), but he also favored Zeke on the equities (Zeke cannot get games back, but NFL can suspend later). After listening to arguments I would guess 60/40 stay is denied and accelerated briefing on preliminary injunction. Overall Zeke got a good panel for him. I would pick up Morris for now and wait for decision by the end of the week. Prado equated it to an (impermissible) interlocutory appeal. NFL attorney wisel;y came back and said it would be like filing an appeal after being denied on a pre-trial evidentiary motion. (https://www.reddit.com/r/fantasyfootball/comments/73tsoj/zeke_elliot_hearing_today/dntd9r7/) Kessler is Zeke's lawyer. Edited October 2, 2017 by Lord_Varys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrastersCreep Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 Just now, Lord_Varys said: Here's from a lawyer who was in the room: How are you feeling about things? You think 60/40 that he plays the remainder of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oliminator123 Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Lord_Varys said: Here's from a lawyer who was in the room: Kessler is Zeke's lawyer. As a professional internet lawyer I can tell you one thing for sure... The Cowboys suck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Varys Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, CrastersCreep said: How are you feeling about things? You think 60/40 that he plays the remainder of the season? My feelings don't matter. I have no clue. This lawyer who was there just guessed 60/40 that the stay is denied, which would mean that Zeke plays until the next hearing is decided, whenever that is. What a headache. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrastersCreep Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 9 minutes ago, Lord_Varys said: My feelings don't matter. I have no clue. This lawyer who was there just guessed 60/40 that the stay is denied, which would mean that Zeke plays until the next hearing is decided, whenever that is. What a headache. I was more asking your opinikn about what would happen not your feelings about the case. Anyway thanks for the insight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burninglegs Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 ^ lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolcopter Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 45 minutes ago, Lord_Varys said: per reddit user u/FoxNO who was apparently in the courtroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiveohnine Posted October 2, 2017 Share Posted October 2, 2017 17 minutes ago, burninglegs said: ^ lol Anyone who is 100% convinced this guy could never have gotten violent with that girl really needs to ask Santa for a douuchebag radar this Christmas. Unfortunately the legal system can’t just order the NFL to have a few players take him somewhere, beat the s--- out of him, and call it a day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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