Ezekiel Elliott 2017 Season Outlook

[frog34]

I'm preparing myself for the worst case. Filling my bench with all sorts of RB flyers. Hopefully Tuesday will finally bring some clarity, but I reckon it will take another week or two.

[Ffguy0087]

22 minutes ago, frog34 said:

I'm preparing myself for the worst case. Filling my bench with all sorts of RB flyers. Hopefully Tuesday will finally bring some clarity, but I reckon it will take another week or two.

Is it not supposed to be announced on Monday?

[frog34]

11 minutes ago, Ffguy0087 said:

Is it not supposed to be announced on Monday?

Theoretically, yes. But if they want to dig deeper and schedule additional hearings, it could be another week or two. Fwiw if the latter is the case, odds are Zeke serves his suspension immediately. Monday ruling would probably be in Zeke's favor.

[the holy one]

With all this legal stuff poppin' up again, what's the latest update on his trade value according to you guys? 

[Ffguy0087]

Edit--I think this was already posted, nvm.

Edited September 28, 2017 by Ffguy0087

[CyberneticGhostOfXMasPast]

He'll likely be handed a life time ban st the rate my season is going 

[TommyKramer]

HEY!!!!  Does anyone know what's going to happen with Zeke's looming suspension?  What do you think will happen?  Are there any lawyers here?  Does anyone know the judge? If he gets suspended what are you going to do with your fantasy team?  I'm going to pick up Joe bag of doughnuts that nobody wants on their team right now and that's why he's sitting in the free agent pool and hope for the best.  Al Morris or D-Mac?  Maybe they'll make a trade for Adrian Peterson!  I better make a trade for AP right now before anyone else figures this out.  Let's speculate about every scenario that could happen and blabber on about it for 20 pages.  Blah, blah, blah blah blah.............this thread sucks!  

 

 

[grimsfield]

9 minutes ago, TommyKramer said:

HEY!!!!  Does anyone know what's going to happen with Zeke's looming suspension?  What do you think will happen?  Are there any lawyers here?  Does anyone know the judge? If he gets suspended what are you going to do with your fantasy team?  I'm going to pick up Joe bag of doughnuts that nobody wants on their team right now and that's why he's sitting in the free agent pool and hope for the best.  Al Morris or D-Mac?  Maybe they'll make a trade for Adrian Peterson!  I better make a trade for AP right now before anyone else figures this out.  Let's speculate about every scenario that could happen and blabber on about it for 20 pages.  Blah, blah, blah blah blah.............this thread sucks!  

 

 

 

Thanks for wasting 20 seconds of my time.

[screaming_vultures]

Unfortunately this is setting up to be the worst possible kind of anti climax possible.

Zeke missing the last 6 weeks of the regular season, that would be a dagger right into our hearts. 

[burninglegs]

[grimsfield]

1 hour ago, burninglegs said:

 

 

I knew I recognized that face from somewhere!!!

[Members_Only_76]

Uncanny!! ?

[biggquis]

13 hours ago, Damn Yankee said:

 

The owners put this on the table and you're right, it's the PLAYERS (NFLPA) who gave Goodell wide ranging powers on ALL disciplinary matters.  How whats-his-face got re-elected as head of the NFLPA with no real competition is astonishing to me, it really is.  This CBA with Goodell's Authoritative-Regime-like judicial system is their fault.  They  signed the new CBA, and then as soon as Goodell starts exercising his judgement (good or bad) and wielding the hammer, the NFLPA cries foul.  The inability to see this was coming and then to re-elect the leadership that led them down this road is nuts.

 

The NFL was masterful in this negotiation...and the NFLPA got jobbed.  They were waving the look-over-here(!) flag the whole time...discussing rookie wage scales, salary caps, etc. (i.e. the money) which we all know the owners are going to come out on top of that one no-matter-what while they held the other hand with disciplinary rules behind their backs.  Shrewd...the Billionaires won again AND are still scooping huge profits while the players cry foul for something they agreed to.  Then, they re-elect the leader that drove the bus down this road.  Ouy Vey!

 

I think Zeke is going to lose and lose big...and I have a bad feeling it's going to be next week.  Burninglegs said this perfectly above...Goodell heard/read Kia Roberts opinion, took it in, then disagreed with it.  The CBA that the players signed gave him the power to do that...to hear evidence then decide that he doesn't personally agree with it.  Then, he gets to be the judge and jury and executioner and he's doing just that.  SCOTUS won't hear it after I bet this stay is overturned next week.  The only hope that we EZ owners have (besides it not being overturned) is that EZ gets to play during the appeal to SCOTUS and SCOTUS takes a while to make a decision.  I'm sure there are briefs involved, etc. that could drag that out.  

 

The CBA is mutually agreed upon...the players are screwed until they re-do it.  

 

Hey guys...stop beating your women.

 

Zeke didn't beat anyone.

 

I'm with you 100% on the Union getting screwed in the CBA.  This entire thing was never going to go in Elliot's favor, because the commish can do what he wants.  It was always a matter of when this case would be heard.  I figured it would be a Brady-like thing where it isn't until the season is over, but looks like old Roger learned something from that case.

[frog34]

If ruling comes Monday he will probably play all season because there's no reason to rush during the season and judge Mazzant's injunction stays at it is. If they schedule additional hearings over the next couple weeks, you can bet Zeke serves immediately. If the latter happens, let's hope he is back for fantasy playoffs. Tough to get there without him though.

[cs3]

13 hours ago, biggquis said:

 

Zeke didn't beat anyone.

 

LOOOOOL c'mon man, pull your head out of the sand!

[Johnny Canuck]

If you are looking for any info this is far and away the best current resource

 

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/09/27/next-step-ezekiel-elliotts-case-will-play-huge-role-continues-play-must-serve-suspension

 

https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL

^another good source of legal info re the zeke case 

 

*also to any Dallas Cowboy fans, does anyone have any info at all regarding the handcuff situation? Everyone seems to say it's Run DMC, yet Alf is always active while DMC is a healthy scratch. I don't think Alf plays special teams does he? Because if he does, and DMC doesn't that would explain it. But if neither, Alf nor DMC play ST, then wouldn't it make more sense to play DMC as he's the better pass catcher/3rd down back of those two? And since Alf is still playing despite all that, wouldn't that make him the clear cut handcuff?

Edited September 29, 2017 by Johnny Canuck

[DezBryant88]

15 minutes ago, Johnny Canuck said:

If you are looking for any info this is far and away the best current resource

 

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/09/27/next-step-ezekiel-elliotts-case-will-play-huge-role-continues-play-must-serve-suspension

 

https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL

^another good source of legal info re the zeke case 

 

*also to any Dallas Cowboy fans, does anyone have any info at all regarding the handcuff situation? Everyone seems to say it's Run DMC, yet Alf is always active while DMC is a healthy scratch. I don't think Alf plays special teams does he? Because if he does, and DMC doesn't that would explain it. But if neither, Alf nor DMC play ST, then wouldn't it make more sense to play DMC as he's the better pass catcher/3rd down back of those two? And since Alf is still playing despite all that, wouldn't that make him the clear cut handcuff?

 

If Zeke were to serve his suspension McFadden would be active and the primary running back with Morris being the COP.

[Johnny Canuck]

2 minutes ago, DezBryant88 said:

 

If Zeke were to serve his suspension McFadden would be active and the primary running back with Morris being the COP.

 

Is this just pure speculation? are you stating this based on historical tendency? Just wondering what made you come to this conclusion

[CyberneticGhostOfXMasPast]

24 minutes ago, Johnny Canuck said:

If you are looking for any info this is far and away the best current resource

 

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/09/27/next-step-ezekiel-elliotts-case-will-play-huge-role-continues-play-must-serve-suspension

 

https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL

^another good source of legal info re the zeke case 

 

*also to any Dallas Cowboy fans, does anyone have any info at all regarding the handcuff situation? Everyone seems to say it's Run DMC, yet Alf is always active while DMC is a healthy scratch. I don't think Alf plays special teams does he? Because if he does, and DMC doesn't that would explain it. But if neither, Alf nor DMC play ST, then wouldn't it make more sense to play DMC as he's the better pass catcher/3rd down back of those two? And since Alf is still playing despite all that, wouldn't that make him the clear cut handcuff?

 

for the millionth and 1 time ... ALFRED MORRIS IS ACTIVE OVER DMC DUE TO HIS PERFORMANCE IN PRACTICE / PRESEASON OUTPLAYING DARREN MCFADDEN AND BEING REWARDED FOR IT. 

 

the dmc truthers will have you think some ridiculous notion that they are simply "resting" Mcfadden, which is so beyond ridiculous at this point it's not even worth arguing. 

 

Alfred Morris does not play special teams, another popular "argument" for the mcfadden owners. You know who plays special teams? The 4th string RB who is also active over Mcfadden. 

 

it's morris - in what likely would be a timeshare so whatever. 

[Fiveohnine]

9 minutes ago, DezBryant88 said:

 

If Zeke were to serve his suspension McFadden would be active and the primary running back with Morris being the COP.

 

You forgot to tell us how many carries he'd get off tackle, how many dives up the middle, how many screen plays, draws, etc.

[DezBryant88]

4 minutes ago, Johnny Canuck said:

 

Is this just pure speculation? are you stating this based on historical tendency? Just wondering what made you come to this conclusion

 

I'm a cowboys fan, historical tendency, what I saw in preseason, Jerry loves him some McFadden.

 

 

[DezBryant88]

5 minutes ago, CyberneticGhostOfXMasPast said:

 

for the millionth and 1 time ... ALFRED MORRIS IS ACTIVE OVER DMC DUE TO HIS PERFORMANCE IN PRACTICE / PRESEASON OUTPLAYING DARREN MCFADDEN AND BEING REWARDED FOR IT. 

 

the dmc truthers will have you think some ridiculous notion that they are simply "resting" Mcfadden, which is so beyond ridiculous at this point it's not even worth arguing. 

 

Alfred Morris does not play special teams, another popular "argument" for the mcfadden owners. You know who plays special teams? The 4th string RB who is also active over Mcfadden. 

 

it's morris - in what likely would be a timeshare so whatever. 

 

Fantasy aside they will never use Morris as an early down back. Ever. For the time being he's the #2 behind Zeke but if Zeke were to miss time McFadden would be first to get carries and Morris would be a cop back that chips in. Sorry to break it to you man. 

 

You could use preseason play as an argument but in reality both McFadden and Morris looked good in preseason.

[BlakeP42]

i think if Zeke sits its pretty easy to say what will happen.  DMC will be activated, then Morris, DMC, and Rod Smith will attempt a time share to try and hold it all together for the games they need to.  Neither would be all that inspiring to play, it could be a full blown committee. No chance either becomes an every down work horse.   Morris cleary worked his butt off this offseason after being publicly put on the trade block by the Cowboys and he's been rewarded for that.  According to Garrett he's earned his role as the back up to Zeke at this time and Rod Smith of course plays many special teams plays, so its put DMC on the outside looking in.  

 

Neither would be anything more then a flex play 

 

EDIT: seems like we got some snarky mother F'ers in this thread as well who just like to hear themselves speak. Funny

Edited September 29, 2017 by BlakeP42

[1st DownSyndrome]

39 minutes ago, Johnny Canuck said:

If you are looking for any info this is far and away the best current resource

 

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-cowboys/cowboys/2017/09/27/next-step-ezekiel-elliotts-case-will-play-huge-role-continues-play-must-serve-suspension

 

https://twitter.com/WALLACHLEGAL

^another good source of legal info re the zeke case 

 

*also to any Dallas Cowboy fans, does anyone have any info at all regarding the handcuff situation? Everyone seems to say it's Run DMC, yet Alf is always active while DMC is a healthy scratch. I don't think Alf plays special teams does he? Because if he does, and DMC doesn't that would explain it. But if neither, Alf nor DMC play ST, then wouldn't it make more sense to play DMC as he's the better pass catcher/3rd down back of those two? And since Alf is still playing despite all that, wouldn't that make him the clear cut handcuff?

 

As a cowboys fan I hope it's DMC. I have nothing base this off of other than my own opinion about who the better back is.

 

Unfortunately the coaches didn't ask me so chances are it will be Alf just going off of who has been active/inactive.

 

[CyberneticGhostOfXMasPast]

3 minutes ago, DezBryant88 said:

 

Fantasy aside they will never use Morris as an early down back. Ever. For the time being he's the #2 behind Zeke but if Zeke were to miss time McFadden would be first to get carries and Morris would be a cop back that chips in. Sorry to break it to you man. 

 

You could use preseason play as an argument but in reality both McFadden and Morris looked good in preseason.

 

logic aside, it's quite clear the back they've chosen to be inactive will become the early down runner and the back who is active every week will take a backseat. k, got it.