Ezekiel Elliott 2017 Season Outlook

[FFCollusion]

Not a good way to start the season, but ultimately will come down to perspective, or more importantly... Goodell's perspective.

 

News recently broke that Zeke, in a St. Patricks Day Parade, pulled down a woman's shirt, exposing her bare breast to the crowd.

It's a TMZ article, but there is video proof.  This will be interesting for the NFL, but shortly after he reaches over to do it again, she slaps his hand... and then she flashes both of them to the entire crowd.

 

http://www.tmz.com/2017/03/13/ezekiel-elliott-expose-woman-breast-st-pattys-day-parade/

While the video is censored, I assume it still needs to be classified as NSFW.

 

Assuming no suspension, he's a top 3 back, top 4 pick.  In PPR I don't personally believe he belongs in the #1 overall discussion, but I wouldn't fault anyone for doing it either.

[mrblonde1984]

I'm gonna need to see an uncensored version of the video to, uhh, form an accurate opinion.

[psygolf]

His head is as empty as the big Salvation Army kettle he jumped in.

[My Dinner With Andre]

Suspended for that?

[psygolf]

2 minutes ago, mrblonde1984 said:

I'm gonna need to see an uncensored version of the video to, uhh, form an accurate opinion.

^ Said Roger..."and close the door behind you."

[dabeesta17]

I think team personnel issues are more important than this boob story. The Cowboys lost Doug Free, who had started 107 of 112 games for them since 2010, to retirement. They lost Ronald Leary to free agency (Denver). Now they have to rely on Chaz Green, who has played in only 4 games in his first two NFL seasons due to injury; and a very up-and-down La'El Collins on the O-line. Should be an interesting year to see if the Cowboys still hold that Offensive Line Supremacy aura.

[Ffguy0087]

Dunbar is gone. You guys think Dallas uses Zeke more on passing downs this year?

Edited March 16, 2017 by Ffguy0087

[BlakeP42]

22 minutes ago, Ffguy0087 said:

Dunbar is gone. You guys think Dallas uses Zeke more on passing downs this year?

I thought they took Zeke off the field a bit too often on third downs last year, i expect his target total and third down usage to rise this season.  That being said I'm keeping an eye on the McFadden situation. The early rumor was the Cowboys wanted to try and keep DMC/Dunbar but were shopping Morris.  Now that Dunbar is gone i think DMC becomes somewhat of a priority to keep as a multi tool compliment/third down option behind Zeke, so if he resigns it could be interesting to see how that effects Zeke's overall season third down use.  One thing we do know, Morris does not offer any sort of third down skill set.

  If DMC does not return, get ready for the Zeke load to go UPUPUP.

Edited March 16, 2017 by BlakeP42

[FreakFries]

On ‎3‎/‎14‎/‎2017 at 7:40 PM, dabeesta17 said:

I think team personnel issues are more important than this boob story. The Cowboys lost Doug Free, who had started 107 of 112 games for them since 2010, to retirement. They lost Ronald Leary to free agency (Denver). Now they have to rely on Chaz Green, who has played in only 4 games in his first two NFL seasons due to injury; and a very up-and-down La'El Collins on the O-line. Should be an interesting year to see if the Cowboys still hold that Offensive Line Supremacy aura.

 

 

This.

[petekrum]

On March 14, 2017 at 7:32 PM, My Dinner With Andre said:

Suspended for that?

 

My thoughts exactly.

[BlakeP42]

"Profootballtalk believes the NFL could take Ezekiel Elliott's St. Patrick's Day parade video into account as it mulls whether to punish him for his alleged domestic violence incidents."

 

if this is true, the league/Goodell is truly lost, IMO.   Either that, or this "alleged" domestic violence case still has legs we aren't hearing about.  Law enforcement has declined charges after their investigation but yet, the NFL wants to continue probing this issue AND wants to add the Paddy's Day video to it for a possible punishment/suspension......i call BS

[Winky]

Pretty much a douchebag move by Elliott.

 

[pikerbkb]

On 3/14/2017 at 4:32 PM, My Dinner With Andre said:

Suspended for that?

There was an article that came out the other day that said Gronk was recently caught on video burying his face in between a woman's breasts at a night club and that he should be punished as well. I gotta say that if motor-boating is wrong, I don't want to be right.

[BlakeP42]

5 minutes ago, Winky said:

Pretty much a douchebag move by Elliott.

 

no argument here.  Should he be punished/suspended for it?  Should it be coupled with the alleged DV case that the law enforcement dropped all charges against?  If the answer is yes, i fully disagree.

[jbshaw]

6 minutes ago, BlakeP42 said:

"Profootballtalk believes the NFL could take Ezekiel Elliott's St. Patrick's Day parade video into account as it mulls whether to punish him for his alleged domestic violence incidents."

 

if this is true, the league/Goodell is truly lost, IMO.   Either that, or this "alleged" domestic violence case still has legs we aren't hearing about.  Law enforcement has declined charges after their investigation but yet, the NFL wants to continue probing this issue AND wants to add the Paddy's Day video to it for a possible punishment/suspension......i call BS

I'd have no problem with a (light) suspension of the woman didn't consent or get anywhere close to implying so beforehand. But it should be a separate thing from the dv case. Character witnesses (essentially what this would be) don't make a ton of sense in determining whether something actually happened, and there is quite a large gap between dv and timberlaking.

[BlakeP42]

1 minute ago, pikerbkb said:

There was an article that came out the other day that said Gronk was recently caught on video burying his face in between a woman's breasts at a night club and that he should be punished as well. I gotta say that if motor-boating is wrong, I don't want to be right.

me and some other roto members talked of this Gronk news just yesterday.  I find it odd that the SB winning TE isn't held to a similar standard Zeke is

[BlakeP42]

Just now, jbshaw said:

I'd have no problem with a (light) suspension of the woman didn't consent or get anywhere close to implying so beforehand. But it should be a separate thing from the dv case. Character witnesses (essentially what this would be) don't make a ton of sense in determining whether something actually happened, and there is quite a large gap between dv and timberlaking.

if that lady lawyers up, files charges with video evidence as we see now, Zeke's prob in trouble and headed for suspension.  So far here locally in Dallas, i've not heard or read anything like that so far.  As of right now we have a really dumb, young Zeke who's def making poor choices, but is also not being charged with anything.  Its BS to throw out a possible suspension allegations for two incidents that have brought about ZERO charges so far, IMO.  Its even more stupid to lump them together

[Winky]

13 minutes ago, BlakeP42 said:

no argument here.  Should he be punished/suspended for it?  Should it be coupled with the alleged DV case that the law enforcement dropped all charges against?  If the answer is yes, i fully disagree.

 

It's not for me to determine a punishment, but this is a data point that indicates something about his character and his not having learned any lessons from related experiences.

What if he just randomly did that to your girlfriend or your daughter... how would you feel then? 

 

If the NFL wants to continue to attract a female audience, I am not sure there shouldn't be any repercussions here.

 

 

Edited March 16, 2017 by Winky

[pikerbkb]

8 minutes ago, BlakeP42 said:

me and some other roto members talked of this Gronk news just yesterday.  I find it odd that the SB winning TE isn't held to a similar standard Zeke is

It's pretty hilarious right? Just Gronk being Gronk. Not sure why he get's a pass other than, off the field, there's not a mean bone in his body, not that I've ever heard anyway. No criminal background or accusations.

 

Zeke seems harmless as well other than the past accusation of DV. I doubt anything ever becomes of this incident other than a sit down with Jerra & Co.

Edited March 16, 2017 by pikerbkb

[pikerbkb]

God this is useless. People trying to make something out of nothing. Act like a pirate hooker, get treated like a pirate hooker. Nobody got hurt. Nobody is pressing charges. Far more crazy things happened in my college dorm. PC police and the Great Butthurt we call social media has gotten out of hand. Nothing to see here.

[Winky]

3 minutes ago, pikerbkb said:

Act like a pirate hooker, get treated like a pirate hooker.

 

You're blaming the girl?

[BlakeP42]

1 minute ago, Winky said:

 

It's not for me to determine a punishment, but this is a true data point indicating something about his character.

If the NFL wants to continue to attract a female audience, I am not sure there shouldn't be any repercussions here.

 

What if he just randomly did that to your girlfriend or your daughter... how would you feel then? 

First, i do not in any way agree with what Zeke did in that video and if he exposed a relative on mine without her consent, i'd be upset.

 

For me, this is about taking allegations and making them fact for suspension. Image issues or not, don't botch Josh Brown's DV case but then pin a guy like Zeke down without proof and charges, IMO.  

 

Also, you do make a good point "but this is a true data point indicating something about his character"   Given the microscope over Zeke's head its a terrible choice he's made at the parade.  I just think if the league is going to go down this rabbit hole of suspending guys for "character allegations" well then half the league should be suspended.

 

 

 

[joshua18]

3 minutes ago, BlakeP42 said:

First, i do not in any way agree with what Zeke did in that video and if he exposed a relative on mine without her consent, i'd be upset.

 

For me, this is about taking allegations and making them fact for suspension. Image issues or not, don't botch Josh Brown's DV case but then pin a guy like Zeke down without proof and charges, IMO.  

 

Also, you do make a good point "but this is a true data point indicating something about his character"   Given the microscope over Zeke's head its a terrible choice he's made at the parade.  I just think if the league is going to go down this rabbit hole of suspending guys for "character allegations" well then half the league should be suspended.

 

And half of the owners...

[Hawkeye21]

1 hour ago, petekrum said:

 

My thoughts exactly.

 

If she didn't want him to then, yep.  That my friend is sexual assault.  Most likely she didn't really care though so it's not a big deal.

[Hawkeye21]

50 minutes ago, pikerbkb said:

God this is useless. People trying to make something out of nothing. Act like a pirate hooker, get treated like a pirate hooker. Nobody got hurt. Nobody is pressing charges. Far more crazy things happened in my college dorm. PC police and the Great Butthurt we call social media has gotten out of hand. Nothing to see here.

 

I think this speaks a lot to what your character is.  If a girl does not give consent to touch her like that then don't touch her.  If she doesn't care then it's not an issue.  It's as simple as that.  Just because a woman dresses like a pirate hooker does not make her one nor does it give consent to treat her as one.  Once again, if that woman gives consent then motor boat away my friend.